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1979 to 1983 DOHC CB750/900/1000/1100 Honda Custom: Forums |
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AlexRozzi2021
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Joined: Jan 15, 2021
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Location: City Bell, Argentina
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Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:20 am |
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I, dear members I'm Alex From Argentina, glad to found this forum, I'm next to buy a 1981 CB750 C Exclusive, it seems in very good condition, seller says never opened block and it seems all original, me and my father love these Customs, so its a very delayed dream, (me 52, Father 82)
I really would appreciatte any tip about what to look for, in inspection instance, later today will visit the dealer to inspect the bike, I have very good mechanics profile and some experience, but never put my hands on an engine like this (I had many XL 125, XR 600, actually a CM 200T Twinstar, and always had hands plenty of grease, I also restored completely a 1967 Mercedes 250 SE.
Really would like to know for example how to know if timming chain is worn, or if there are potential problems on valve train, I know this engine has 4 valves / cilinder, and hidraulic actuators.
Well, all info would be very appreciatted!!!, Saturday afternoon (local) is de D day!!
put some pics of the lady |
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pd750
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Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:17 am |
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Welcome to the site Alex ...
If you haven't read the following page , now is the time .
http://www.cb750c.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=80601#80601
If you run into problems with any of that , Please let us know . Thanks .
You might have a look at and download the Factory Service Manual , available in our Technical Documents section . It's free .
Sounds like you have a pretty good idea of what's good and bad in a bike . |
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genesound
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Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:31 pm |
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AlexRozzi2021
Getting up steam
Joined: Jan 15, 2021
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Location: City Bell, Argentina
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Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:46 pm |
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Hi!, many thanks , very useful your tips list, thanks very much.
I believe it has 143.000Km, aprox. 90.000miles |
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AlexRozzi2021
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Location: City Bell, Argentina
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Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:57 pm |
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On Saturday I went to inspect it,. very nice, very original and complette, except handlebar around seat.
a little smoke on left muflers, it apears reduced when engine warmed.
I made deposit, so hope not to be trgiacal.... it coul be said I´m the new owner!
when engine is hot it sounds really nice, bike was some time stopped.
brake disc are almos like new, dont belive the was changed. could it be 90.000miles and no significant wear?
thanks a lot
PS FSM, great!!!!!!
thanks a lot |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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genesound
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Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:47 pm |
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Please fill in your location and sig.
Wow, 90K miles is quite a long life for one of these bikes without the motor ever being opened, quite rare IMO. If it still has good compression at that much mileage, I'd say it's had to have a lot of work beyond just good maintenance. They just don't last that long without some considerable engine work as a rule. Especially the cam chains and tensioners. Even changing oil every 1000 miles, my friends bike needed a complete overhaul at 100,000 miles.
So I couldn't hazard a guess at what your cam chains and tensioners look like. I've replaced them at 30K miles, but that was probably a bit early. The tensioner slippers can die from engine heat and crack and crumble when old. The chains die from lack of being adjusted properly, and a poor tensioner and guide design that allows them to whip back and forth at speed.
Maybe the mileage estimate is off. Could it actually be 43Km? It looks more like that. It looks too clean for 143Km miles. The forks and pipes usually have some pitting and discoloration just from dust, sand and dirt strikes while being ridden. Maybe it's just a real flattering picture. |
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Contains SITE RULES, how to enter required bike information in your signature, thread and picture posting...
Also some important DOHC wrenching tips, and some other information, shop manuals.
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AlexRozzi2021
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:39 pm |
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Hi, many thanks for the comments,
yes probably it only has 43.000km, bike was stopped for a long time according owner comments, but there is a car dealer forwarding info... mmmm.
its no indicious of wear on front fork, exhaust is quite chromed, no yellow or rainbow coloration, engine bolts seems not be touched, except ex cam chain tensioner and clutch adjust. no noticeable wear on rubber rest for feet (sorry for the poor term to translate). will try to upload some pics.
the onlyu thing warning me is a little smoke on left cilinders, maybe stuck oil control rings... hope that...
I managed my signature content, pls tell me if its right
PS: tomorrow will go to bring it home!!!! |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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genesound
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:01 pm |
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Congratulations on your purchase. It's a real nice looking bike!
Probably valve stem seals are hard and need changing causing the smoke. Head work is usually the first thing for these motors. If your compression is good, you should be OK for some time. Be sure to do all the maintenance on schedule. I recommend changing the oil at least every 2000 miles though. Use good quality motorcycle rated oil, not automotive oil. High priced synthetic oil isn't really necessary, these bikes contaminate the oil too quickly and need frequent changes, so the advantages of synth oil are few.
At 43Km you're cam chain tensioners are probably still OK. Cam chains generally last 80-100Km or maybe more if you keep them adjusted snug. Use the static method to adjust the cam chains, not dynamic. Cam chains do wear though, and the effect is that the cam timing changes and so power goes down. Adjusting can't fix it the cam timing though, it happens because the chains get longer from pin and hole wear in the links, not stretch, and adjusting only takes up the slack and reduces chain whipping. |
_________________ NMT - New Member Thread, a Must Read, click here!!! - Information For New and Veteran Members.
Contains SITE RULES, how to enter required bike information in your signature, thread and picture posting...
Also some important DOHC wrenching tips, and some other information, shop manuals.
Kindly read this linked thread with the rules before posting
pictures or asking lots of questions that are already answered in it.
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81 CB900C, 83 CB1000C.
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AlexRozzi2021
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Location: City Bell, Argentina
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:06 pm |
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HERE THE PICS. |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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AlexRozzi2021
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:11 pm |
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MORE PICS |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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genesound
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AlexRozzi2021
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:13 pm |
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AND A FEW MORE PICS |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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AlexRozzi2021
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:16 pm |
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AND 3 MORE |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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AlexRozzi2021
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Location: City Bell, Argentina
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:24 pm |
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AlexRozzi2021 wrote: | HERE THE PICS. |
Hi , many txs for your comments, I cinsidered valve stem seals, but its no noticeable more smoke after vacum due throttle cut, in my experience its seems like ring issue.
well, we will see...
what do you thinks about the real milleage after saw the pics?
thanks, again, Alex. |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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genesound
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:35 pm |
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genesound
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AlexRozzi2021
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Location: City Bell, Argentina
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Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:06 am |
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OK, countdown finished, glad to tell that yesterday I bring my new 1981 CB 750 C exclusive, to her new Home!!!
a nice 70km trip , most on clear road, across the fields, with the hot summer wind in face, wow.... more than 15 years without riding a bike...
the bike runs great, finally very liuttle fumes on left cilinders, will se about evolution, no oil leaks, and all runs smooth, impressed with very elastic engine, next Week end, will check the entire bike, it needs carbs adjust, very poor idle, I also noticed a little hard suspension, need to check front fork air pressure, and rear springs preload and hidraulic control. (these rear shockks have a lever on bottom, I believe the adjust hidraulic damper). also need to check rear brake, (disc type) it has a long travel and very sponge effect
This bike has a very particular history, last night checking documentation I found that it wass purchased on 1982, 0km in Tokio, by a Argentine militar attachement at Yokohama, during his foreign service, and some years after that it was bringed , in 1988, to Argentina.
of course Im printing FSM, and beans Bike Maintenance Checklist wich will be invaluable help!
now have to thanks to all whom helped me with comments and suggestion, during this stage.
PS, this bike, in addition to being a desire of my own, it is my tribute to my father, who, since he first saw her, he love her, at first sight, next Saturday, me and my brother will take her, to share this gift, at his 82. Ik sure he will be very excited!!! and we will too.
will keep in touch, this , just starts!!! |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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AlexRozzi2021
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Location: City Bell, Argentina
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Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:34 am |
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TAKEN PICS, WHEN BRINGING HOME |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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AlexRozzi2021
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Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:37 am |
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Hi, any info about these mirrors? |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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pd750
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Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:48 am |
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The bike seems in very nice condition .
Maybe those are aftermarket mirrors ?
Below is a pic of the stock mirrors on the American 750C .
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genesound
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Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:39 pm |
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AlexRozzi2021
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Location: City Bell, Argentina
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Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:34 am |
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Hi, yes, I´m sure my mirrors are aftermarket.
I found they have a red position light and yellow turn signl inside lens. |
_________________ Alex Rozzi
City Bell, Argentina
1981 CB750C Exclusive
1981 CM200T Twinstar
1967 Mercedes Benz 250SE |
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genesound
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